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[General] A book everyone loves that you hate

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Post time: 2-7-2018 19:51:15
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Meself 2-7-2018 06:06 PM
@Danielle I talked about Vayam Rakshama because that was the only heavily popularized book in the ge ...

Be my guest to bet your money on most people not knowing the name of the President of India, but nearly everyone has heard of Dawood Ibrahim
What does that prove?
President of India sits on highest seat of power in this country, even if not a single person knows his name

Ramdhari Singh Dinkar received Gyanpeeth Award for Urvashi
Would you bet your money on it that most people don't not know what Gyanpeeth Award is!
That's their loss if they don't know what Gyanpeeth Award is and what it represents

JaiShankar Prasad's work was Historical Fiction and Amish's work...?
Isn't it the alternative imagination of Mythology or even Mythology inverted upside down
Isn't it a fiction too? That too with no class, no style and no charisma
Yes it is popular. But since when has popularity started defining class?
If it's all about how popular one is, Ekta Kapoor's writers should take the cake.
There's nothing more viewed and applauded by Indians than Naagin franchise as we talk
The figure is way more than 75 crores
Popularity doesn't define class

You don't like the work of JaiShankar Prasad, all too good for you
But you've associated him with an era. And we're settled.
You may not find his work good but his literary acumen is unparalleled
It can't be challenged any day of any era as you put it

Amish Tripathi doesn't own 5 years, let alone a decade or a century or an era
About this Historical and Mythological fiction, please understand  that Mythological Fiction and Historical Fiction are very closely related
They are not mutually exclusive
There are still very few books if you start counting Historical Fiction out of the Mythological genre
Mahabharata doesn't belong to Mythological fiction, it is Historical Fiction too and count out the Mahabharata Fiction,
you can't name 10 authors (Best selling to fairly unknown combined) who have written a Mythological Fiction till date


Vayam Raksham? It is a heavily popularized book! There you slipped, really sorry
Vaishali ki Nagarvadhu was and still is the only book that overshadowed all books of Acharya Chatursen Shastri
He even disowned all his books after having written Vaishali ki Nagarvadhu, such was the storm this book brought about
You may say it's a Historical Fiction but as explained earlier, you can't count out Historical Fiction of Mythological genre(In books by Indian Authors because there are very few Amish Tripathiesque Mythology)
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Post time: 2-7-2018 20:13:05
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Firstly my advice to you would be get your tone right. We're here to merely state our opinions and not fight it out until death. You ranted we listened. I think you can extend the same courtesy to others. No one here is holding you out on a gun point to quieten yourself or not speak out your mind. But do so gently. I don't see why should you bring up Dawood Ibrahim or the fact what Amish owns and not or where should I exactly be betting my money on.

If you are entitled to speak out your opinion, others are allowed to do the same. Please refrain from using that tone, others can do that very well too.
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Post time: 2-7-2018 20:14:11
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I have a query here. Is Mahabharata historical? I think it's mythology. Are there any archaeological evidence to prove it is history?
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Post time: 2-7-2018 20:20:14
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jhsurti 2-7-2018 08:14 PM
I have a query here. Is Mahabharata historical? I think it's mythology. Are there any archaeological ...

Mahabharata is very much Historical.

Marine archaeology has also been utilized in India off the coast of the ancient port city of Dwaraka in Gujarat, uncovering further evidence in support of statements in the Vedic scriptures. An entire submerged city at Dvaraka, the ancient port city of Lord Krishna with its massive fort walls, piers, warfs and jetty has been found in the ocean as described in the Mahabharata

Apart from the modern day astronomers, even Aryabhata acknowledged that Mahabharata was a real event and calculated that Mahabharata war happened approximately 3100 B.C.

All places mentioned in Mahabharata are real places, all are identified as real places. For instance, Hastinapur is in UP. Indraprastha is the present day Delhi. Dwarka is located in Gujarat coast.
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Post time: 2-7-2018 20:38:55
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Edited by Danielle at 2-7-2018 08:47 PM
Meself 2-7-2018 08:13 PM
Firstly my advice to you would be get your tone right. We're here to merely state our opinions and n ...


It's just that take your own advice first.The first statement that you used was "Woah this was some rant"
That was personal

Please don't take me wrong, it's me and me alone who knows what my tone (if you can call it tone because I don't think anyone hears tone in text?) was and it was not offensive.
But if you're slighted by my post, feel free to tell me, I'll delete the post

In your two posts, you have addressed me accusingly, you should have shown courtesy there. Not because I need that. It's because you want courtesy for your own self.

With due respect, I thought you had enough money to bet on who knows what and what not!
Even I didn't hold a pistol on your forehead to force you to bet your money, if this betting statement is what you're upset about, you are the one who started about betting your money on facts and figures

How Dawood Ibrahim's reference affected you is something I can't understand and I don't want to understand either.
You've been ranting too, and we all have been listening too. I didn't say anything directly against you nor would I ever say

I won't speak in your presence now because you hear tones in text.

If you're offended, I apologize. That's all I can do about it. But I know I was not being aggressive or hurling personal accusations
Please relax. Let me exit out of this conversation with humble apology. I never wanted to annoy you!

Forgive me please!

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 Author| Post time: 2-7-2018 21:24:47
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Edited by cynic at 2-7-2018 10:03 PM

Let's keep this civil, shall we? No personal accusations please. I am all for passionate discussions, limited to the topic.

The disadvantage of online conversations is often that we are not aware how it gets interpreted. Let's not get ahead of ourselves and expect the worst.
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Post time: 2-7-2018 22:46:39
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Edited by Virendra at 2-7-2018 10:47 PM

Thread was about sharing which popular work is overrated. @Danielle told she disliked Amish and reasons for the same. Did she request anyone to tell her that Amish is popular and bet money on this and that. Then a humble answer was taken as bad in tone. It was nowhere bad. It was nowhere personal. Instead, @Meself ran out of facts and instead of taking that sportingly, he/she brought tone. Bad tone. Harsh tone and all.  @Danielle apologized humbly. She should have never apologized. She didn't gatecrash anyone else's  space.
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 Author| Post time: 2-7-2018 23:08:30
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Edited by cynic at 2-7-2018 11:19 PM
Image Virendra Image 2-7-2018 10:46 PM
Thread was about sharing which popular work is overrated. @Danielle told she disliked Amish and reas ...

Let us allow the two to be the judge of that, shall we? And let the group admin handle this. I am sure Danielle is not rallying any support.
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Post time: 2-7-2018 23:18:46
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cynic 2-7-2018 11:08 PM
Let us allow the two to be the judge of that, shall we?

Hahaha. Why do Mods behave like a diva!

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 Author| Post time: 2-7-2018 23:28:39
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Edited by cynic at 2-7-2018 11:30 PM
Image Virendra Image 2-7-2018 11:18 PM
Hahaha. Why do Mods behave like a diva!

I am not fond of public display of authority but there is always an exception. Your comment was quite out of line which is not appreciated.

When two people have a miscommunication and heated words are exchanged, it is only fair to let them resolve it among themselves. Not because one of the members is a group mod. If Shivani was a regular member; I, as the group admin, would have accorded her the same liberty.

Did you join this group just for this purpose? To rake things up? Does seem like it. We on the group do not like people who are judgmental and fire starters. Like I said before, I feel Danielle is a mature lady who is not rallying support. Don't poke your nose where it is not required.

I would have had this conversation via PM which I normally do, but your comment warranted it.





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