free section....should be open to all for replying/commenting

Pedro_P

arjuns1988 16-6-2018 10:43 AM
I dont understand why there is such restruction on everythins. It's like operating a nuclear missile ...

I will explain the reasons why it is necessary and important the restrictions that have been established to access the Reading Room section:
In principle, the Reading Room section is not a reader's club, the Reader's Club is an existing group in the forum and independent of that section.
What was really stifling the growth  of this place, were all those malicious accounts that freely accessed the Reading Room section to report the contents that were generously shared there by good users, those malicious accounts were created with false email accounts and addresses unknow ip, and they forced the forum to eliminate those contents. If we did not stop those malicious accounts, this place would have closed a long time ago and you would not have a place to claim.
This place is not a public place, it is  not a cooperative, this place has been created as a private initiative, therefore, there are legal responsibilities that must be assumed, in this sense, as any place of private, security policies are necessary, and allow us to develop this place without exposing the good users that contribute here.

If you are interested only in that section, then you are being selfish, you are not realizing the enormous effort that is needed to have this place open and running and to offer free access to this place.

I know that the ghost of UCF is still present, however, it is time to leave finished stories behind and close the cycles. Today we are here at CraxMe Forum, and we all want this place to be unique and special and that every CraxMe day is much better. We only have to change past and stagnant paradigms in time and take advantage of all the spaces and potentialities that CraxMe offers for all its users.

Keeping this place open and at the  same time trying to prevent malicious accounts from sabotaging the very existence of this place is not a matter of ego. If you think that way, you are then confusing things.

CraxMe Forum does not need users, CraxMe Forum needs friends, who understand that this place could not exist without the support of all those people who feel empathy for this place and all that is behind for this place to remain standing. If you are only thinking about your own interests, that's fine, but here we not only think about the interests of our users, but we also think about the viability and sustainability of this place, so that we can all have CraxMe Forum for a long time.
If you do not want to join the effort that we all independently and voluntarily make here, it is your right and freedom, but that does not mean that we will stop giving our best effort so that this place continues to exist.
When one freely enters a place, one must be able to accept the rules of the game of that place, if you are not able to understand that elementary criterion, then there is not much we can do.

xbmcmu

Understand and appreciate your point of view, but forcing a literature enthusiast to read and comment on issues and topics of no interest to them is definitely over-the-top. Cause and measures should be balanced in my opinion.

Pedro_P

xbmcmu 16-6-2018 12:11 PM
Understand and appreciate your point of view, but forcing a literature enthusiast to read and commen ...

Nobody is forcing anyone... People are free to enter and leave this place, no one is forced to do what they do not want to do... I will repeat again something that I have explained on a previous occasion:

«... In principle, the restrictions applied to the Reading Room Section respond to the need for CraxMe Forum to have a security and protection policy, which seeks avoid the entry of malicious user accounts (accounts created with false emails and/or false IP addresses) that are constantly denouncing the contents that are shared in that section, so that they are removed from the forum. On the other hand, the security policy also seeks to protect users who generously share content in that section.

The information requested from  users, about other interests that they may have, has a double purpose, allowing us to design a forum more in line with the interests of our users. And let us know that on the other side there is an honest person genuinely interested in being part of this place. On the other hand, the information requested does not have any sensitive or vital nature about the personal information of the users. (phone numbers, other email accounts or intimate or confidential user information are not requested).

Nobody is being blocked from  entering the forum, and precisely because anyone can enter, it is necessary to implement a security policy.

For example, I can to assume that  your house has a lock on the entrance door, you will not want someone outside your family to enter or unknown persons enter, on the other hand, you might consider that your closest friends have a key to they can to enter in your house. That consideration your, is a policy. The same policy that CraxMe have legitimately, not only the right but also the duty to implement...
... To think that CraxMe Forum was created solely on the basis of books, is a wrong approach.

Obviously the books generate the greatest attention and activity of the forum, but unfortunately, the Forum can not survive if that unique approach is applied, precisely because of the risk of complaints that I have explained.

Imagine a square table with four  legs in each of its corners, the table is held well and level while its four legs are there, but now imagine the same table but with only three or two legs, the table will probably lose its support and it will fall, nor could it serve that only one of its for is stronger and more robust, the table will probably also lose balance and fall.

This analogy can illustrate the situation, so that CraxMe can stand on its feet, it needs several legs, that is, several sections and spaces that allow it to stand. Having only one leg is also possible, but now imagine that someone comes with an ax and tries to knock down your table, giving accurate blows (denunciations) to your only leg, the table will fall. That's what we do not want to happen, we do not want CraxMe to fall inexorably. We need CraxMe (our table) has more legs, solid and firm that allow to hold it.

The security policy that CraxMe  Forum has implemented does not have a proper name, that is, it has not been created or is directed towards a particular person, the policy responds to a situational reality that endangers the very existence of the Forum, is designed to mitigate the impact they have against the forum...
... Reliable users, if they can be defined, are those users who, despite initial difficulties and discomforts (which will not be forever, but are of a temporary nature) support the existence of the Forum and its continuity over time.

Reliable users, will not try to circumvent the basic rules of good and respectful use of the sections of the Forum for selfish purposes of satisfaction of their own interests, which, although legitimate, if the integrity of the forum is subjugated to achieve it, then those interests lose legitimacy.

And by the way, reliable users, will not create user accounts with false IP addresses and false emails, to sabotage the existence of the forum.

CraxMe Forum wants to have more than just users, CraxMe wants to have friends who feel empathy for this place, feel safe when they share content here, and feel that their participation is of great help so that the forum can exist.

When one freely decides to enter a  place, one must have the ability to accept the rules of the game of that place...
... Finally, everything depends on the will and encouragement of people, their ability to be involved or to feel empathy with a place (in this case, with CraxMe Forum), and that (including valuation) also depends on the prejudices that are built on the basis of seeing only one side of the coin, of only seeing the superficial and not the underlying, that is, of judging a book just by looking at its cover or reading its title.

I think there are happily many spaces and places to freely choose, that's what freedom is about, to have options, alternatives, not only to have the ability to choose.»

niya

Dev 16-6-2018 09:26 PM
Bro take some time to understand CraxMe and its sections, groups etc. Did you ever notice that thr ...

well bro that is the main issue.see this is nt a site for private parties is it?
if its a space for few to come in together n form their individual group n restrict anyone new to join them
then better make that thread totally private.let the contents be private.let it not be dislayed publickly.
if however it is made public then public should be allowed to join in if they are interested in that topic.
for example i love mythology.any discussion or books related to it makes me want to participate.
now if ur putting in user restrictions then how can i even strike a cordial exchange with other fellows?
i feel sites like this should not be used for persoal interactions or groupism.for personal interactions to form
bonds or friendship or whatever there is always pms n walls to write on.threads are not for privatization.
threads if public should be public n open to all not limited to certain class or group having individual rapo
within themselves.else plz declare craxme as not for the public bt for hosting private convos.
if craxme n its users makes new ppl feel like prove ur mettle then we talk to u then the long wait to prove
ourselves might frustrate the new ones n that won't be a healthy situation or envronment for anyone out here.

cynic

niya 17-6-2018 11:50 AM
well bro that is the main issue.see this is nt a site for private parties is it?
if its a space fo ...

The book club group is free to join and not a clique. All you need to do is click the "join the group" button to start participating. See you there.

niya

cynic 17-6-2018 12:15 PM
The book club group is free to join and not a clique. All you need to do is click the "join the gr ...

thank u for ur kind gestures.

Dev

niya 17-6-2018 11:50 AM
well bro that is the main issue.see this is nt a site for private parties is it?
if its a space fo ...

Why don't you take some time? CraxMe supports user manged groups where users can join for free. If you take some time and understand the features of CraxMe then you will have no troble.
Remember CraxMe is a forum and not a place for silent visitors where users just visit, click on download button and leave. So don't compare it with regular download sites.
CraxMe needs helpful users who will take something from here and also give something. That way CraxMe will continue its journe for long time. Become a real friend of CraxMe and CraxMe will be your friend always.

Pedro_P

niya 17-6-2018 01:20 AM
well bro that is the main issue.see this is nt a site for private parties is it?
if its a space fo ...

CraxMe Forum has an owner, who  pays the services of a website hosting company, so that CraxMe can work. When a malicious account enters the Reading Room section, not only does it freely download a book, but it also denounces by copyrights, if the forum accumulates many complaints, they would oblige the company that hosts the CraxMe website, to close CraxMe. And the owner of CraxMe would assume the legal consequences of that situation. If you can not understand that it is necessary to keep out of the forum the malicious accounts that constantly report to the forum through its Reading Room section, then what you really want is that CraxMe forum closes. That is why it is necessary that there is a security policy that protects the existence of the forum and provides security to users who sharing books.
CraxMe Forum does not want to prioritize its number of users, but rather, CraxMe wants to have a good quality of users who understand that it is not about obtaing things and go or report to the forum.
CraxMe Forum has different spaces and each one has a purpose, if you want to socialize, you can do it in the appropriate places, if you want to exchange opinions about the books, you can do it in the CraxMe Readers Club.
Please, direct a little empathy for this place, do not think selfishly, in the belief that CraxMe should set aside its own requirement to satisfy you.
It is very easy to demand something, as if you had the right to obtain it and this place the obligation to give it to you.
CraxMe Forum, is supported by the voluntary support of all its good users who are aware that this place could not exist without the participation and help of all of them.
Try to understand it, please.

niya

Dev 17-6-2018 12:37 PM
Why don't you take some time? CraxMe supports user manged groups where users can join for free. If ...

bro am giving every possible time.just became junior today.see u are rightly speaking of give n take.
grow together.bt in my process to grow n become a friend when am making my little efforts so

should crxme not make it bit easier n extend its friendly hands too?

don't u think the first 30 credits points were enough to prove seriousness of any  avid reader?
bt crax me still does not allow downloading uploading of attachments even after reaching

30 credits points.
now i have to wait another 50 credits point to reach member level n then see if user restricton is lifted.
do u deny that this is bit tiring?is it not frustratingly over taxing?30+50 credits ponts takes it to 80 credits.
u feel this is a feasible fig?u feel newcomers won't feel thwarted n drained due to such long wait?

yes u may ask whats the hurry to download?bro its not possible to be online 24*7.so downloading
makes life easier.hence the impatince.if u still refuse to see my pov then sorry to have wasted ur precious
time.I shall continue my feeble strugle here as i cannot afford to buy the books i would love to be
able to download n read.n beggars have no choice do they?

Good day to you Sir.

niya

Pedro_P 17-6-2018 12:53 PM
CraxMe Forum has an owner, who  pays the services of a website hosting company, so that CraxMe can ...

got it.if craxme needs more proof of my being a selfless avid reader who also is willing n able to
contribute constructively to this forum having a mutually symbiotic relationship n not
that of a parasite then I am willing to wait n undergo all the  trials n tribulations that craxme

asks me to undergo.i am neither interseted in aimless chatting nor in spamming.yes i am interested
to know the ideas n thoughts of ppl through reasonable interactions hence i participate in the
various discussions that ranges from science to sports to books to other significant topic of

no nonsense relevance.my only entertainment is gathering more insight into people's logical
reasonings so that i too can grow from my limited peripheri of thoughts.nonsensical spamming

is neither my target nor my habit.

anyway I shall wait for all the embargoes to go naturally as designed by craxme.
thank you for taking time out to respond amicably.good day.