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[Discuss] ► The weekly debate of CraxMe Forum... The topic of this week: "facebook, the scandal that has shaken the foundations of social networks."

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 Author| Post time: 9-4-2018 21:04:30 Posted From Mobile Phone
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Devising and designing a business model is not a problem or crime, as long as this is done respecting the law.
However, we can see that the problem with the use of user data so that they are marketed to third parties, implies an underlying problem, which has to do with the ownership of the information... The user loses ownership of his information when it is registrated in a company that manages a social network? For example, facebook becomes the owner of the information of its users? I think that personal information is always the property of users, it is they who can authorize the use of their information, but authorizing the use does not mean losing the ownwership of this information, and nor mean that Facebook sells that information to third parties. But unfortunately, in the conditions of use of Facebook, this company makes use of the information of users, as if that information were its own... And that is a very serious situation.
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Post time: 9-4-2018 22:10:44 Posted From Mobile Phone
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Image Pedro_P Image 9-4-2018 09:04 PM
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Please do anything to stop People You May Know
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Post time: 11-4-2018 18:23:04
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1. I really fail to understand the controversy and the problem. When we willingly give all our information to the various media sites, and routinely click on " I Accept" without reading anything, where is the point to complain? I feel an individual has no reason to be aggrieved, as we can see that even after the disclosure, all are using Facebook, Whatsapp blithly.
2. The cause of worry may be for government who are entrusted with safeguarding our data security. But all the severs of these sites are outside India, and unless they are located in India the govt. cannot do anything.
3. The governments are already having laws and power to control and regulate such matters but they have little desire to do so, as the parties in politics may want to use such lacunas.
4. As regards the misuse by political parties and business, here again, I fail to understand the fuss. The political parties definitely want to know about the nature of their voters in a particular location. If they get such information ready-made, what is the harm? Business houses too conduct market surveys to know about the mental, cultural habits of the clients. If they too get it ready-made, what is the harm?
5. The only issue is it is gathered without our knowledge. But here as I pointed out at point no. 1, we only are to blame ,as we want the benefits but do no bother for the risks.
6. It is a global technology and too much control or regulation over these will be counterproductive. Such control will finally mean control over our right of expression.  
7. The famous saying in market is " BUYERS BEWARE" is to be remembered.
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 Author| Post time: 12-4-2018 04:39:41 Posted From Mobile Phone
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Image rahuldev Image 9-4-2018 11:40 AM
Please do anything to stop People You May Know

Well, if Facebook is related to spreading false news, we should not be surprised if it also offers false friendships.
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 Author| Post time: 12-4-2018 05:00:17 Posted From Mobile Phone
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Image asky332000 Image 11-4-2018 07:53 AM
1. I really fail to understand the controversy and the problem. When we willingly give all our infor ...

Hi...

I agree in part with your opinions, but there is certainly a damage in the sale of personal information to third parties, as Facebook has done. Even more so when such sales happened, it was not consigned in the terms of the facebook service.
Certainly government control should not be overreached or hardened, and it is the people who are solely responsible for whom they give their personal information. But, when a company performs harmful operations behind the backs of its customers or users, that is a scam, a fraud, a damage that deserves at least a investigative process to determine the responsibilities of that situation, in this case, Facebook.
Personal information is not a public good, it is a private good whose owner is the user, the user can decide to share their information, but Facebook has sold that private information, that is a crime, as it is a crime to sell something that does not belongs to one.
The controversy lies precisely in that detail.
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Post time: 12-4-2018 11:18:00
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social media networks need to be deployed only for"social
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Post time: 12-4-2018 11:23:07
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Social media is intended purely for social purposes and for the ultimate good of the society. but the recent incident shows that these platforms have moved away from the larger good and have led to a turn of events which are dangerous, divisive and a far cry from public good. it is good that the US Senate has conducted public hearings and it is hoped that the future direction of policy will be to ensure that such networks serve their purpose, are extra careful in deployin data safeguards
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Post time: 13-4-2018 12:19:14
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Well there are issues which needs to be resolved as far as Data Privacy is concerned. I believe new regulations are required for Companies like Facebook. But at the same time i feel US is bit obsessed about its alleged impact on the results of Election and victory of Trump over Clinton. They want to believe Trump won because of Russian Involvement and things like Cambridge Analytica. This seems a bit far fetched. But the main issue here is how companies like Facebook deal with the Data available with them which is posted on Facebook or which is obtained from Facebook Users from their devices, etc.

It is quite weird that Nation like US is legging behind in regulating Tech Companies which is there for more than a Decade. At the same time most of the Users don't give a damn about their Privacy and what all the application access through their Devices. So unless Users want regulation, there wont be an effective one.
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Post time: 13-4-2018 12:49:06
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Image Pedro_P Image 12-4-2018 05:00 AM
Hi...

I agree in part with your opinions, but there is certainly a damage in the sale of personal ...

I partly agree with you.
No one has sold or exposed any personal data. The facebook & cambridge issue is regarding AGGREGATE (not individual) data sale.
Facebook , as such is a totally open application, That is I can access anyone's information once i am a member. Unlike say Whatsapp, where only the group members data/info can be accessed.
Moreover, once we advertise our likes, dislikes, preferences on facebook, they can be known to all members who are interested in knowing them.
NO INDIVIDUAL HAS SUFFERED FROM FACEBOOK/ CAMBRIDGE data leak, not any individual has complained.
The issue needs to be understood fully by all by discussion, I do not claim that I know all its angles. It is a complex issue where technology, privacy, freedom of expression, business practices, advertising and marketing rules etc etc are involved.
But I still maintain that as an individual, there is no ground for complaining, as I am in my free will sharing my opinions for the free benefits I get from facebook/ whatsapp etc.

(OUTSIDE THIS ISSUE, I AM NOT ABLE TO POST ANY THREAD IN READING ROOM , WHY? TILL TODAY MORNING I WAS DOING FINE. SUDDENLY I AM BARRED FROM UPLOADING ANY BOOK. STRANGE! )
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Post time: 13-4-2018 12:53:33
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Its been a matter of concern that some firms are selling thr privacy of users and facebook had not taken the measures to prevent this from happening and now Mark Zuckerberg the founder and CEO of Facebook is facing hearing at the congress. Its a matter of concern for all of us and for all the network sites.
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